My beloved Cazorla <3

DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY CERTIFIED DOCTORS? HOW CAN YOU QUESTION EVERYTHING AND BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN EVERYONE IS BEYOND ME

Ah yes, doctors are known to never make mistakes.

And because of that when you're sick you'd rather believe what TopTopQuality tells you because doctors are known to make mistakes...

And because of that when you're sick you'd rather believe what TopTopQuality tells you because doctors are known to make mistakes...

Not really. Just saying that just because Arsenal have doctors doesn't mean they make 100% flawless decisions - as evidenced by our awful injury record compared to every other team.

It means whatever they decide is better than what we come up with. Simple as that.

It means whatever they decide is better than what we come up with. Simple as that.

Good old Wengerism. But no, that's not how it works. Decisions at a football club are not 100% based on facts. It's also based on schedule, form and emotion. If Cazorla was played when in the risk zone, then the doctors or Wenger (or both) made a mistake.

He wasn't.

He wasn't.

According to...?

Arsene

Arsene

Children your age tend to create themselves idols. You probably lack direction in life and need a role model, it's understandable. You need someone to worship, like those teenage girls worshiping Justin Bieber.

If you met Wenger in real life you'd probably ask him to fart in a bottle, so that you could sniff it from time to time.

Arsene

Ah, there's a man who has never been wrong about anything. And he has never played players in risk zones. Or wait...

Ah yes, doctors are known to never make mistakes.

As opposed to non-medical professionals, they tend to make fewer mistakes. However, their track record is not very good.

The point he's trying to make, I think, is that at best we're making UNEDUCATED guesses. Unless someone is a physician and at best he's making educated guesses, because even then, he doesn't have access to medical data that Arsenal's doctors have.

Nor does he pretend that he hasn't done any mistakes. As saimpot said, all we do here is speculate but its safe to say that Arsene isn't alone making these decisions. Regarding risk zones, my guess is that there isn't a football manager out there who never played key players in risk zones.

Ah, there's a man who has never been wrong about anything. And he has never played players in risk zones. Or wait...

And my point being that Wenger and his medical team make decisions not just on facts, but on every other aspect of running a football club. Pressure to start certain players in form, for example.

So why the slating of Wenger then? What is he doing differently than other managers would do in this situation?

So why the slating of Wenger then? What is he doing differently than other managers would do in this situation?

Let's not forget that Arsenal's injury problems are, and have been, the worst in the top five leagues every season since tracking began (in terms of number of injuries sustained). It has gotten much better in the last couple of seasons, but before then we had a disgraceful record for at least 15-16 years.

You guys are better managers, footballers and medics than the guys that work for us or other pro clubs. Well done.

You guys are better managers, footballers and medics than the guys that work for us or other pro clubs. Well done.

Brainwashed by Wenger's logic I see...because it's impossible for me to judge the skills of a professional unless I have first-hand experience of that profession.

You have absolutely no experience. If you refer to common sense as Wenger's logic then yes I'm brainwashed.

Brainwashed by Wenger's logic I see...because it's impossible for me to judge the skills of a professional unless I have first-hand experience of that profession.

Unless you have actual knowledge or experience of the inner workings of a medical team, or a football club. If not, then no, you cannot judge the skills. You can only judge the direct outcome of those skills (e.g. injuries, poor signings), but not the skills themselves.

It's like me judging and criticising a doctor for his medical decisions. I can only judge the outcome. But, you also know what they say... Hindsight is 20/20.

You have absolutely no experience.

And you have absolutely no experience as a pilot, but if the plane goes down I'm pretty sure you'd pass a judgement or two.

Unless you have actual knowledge or experience of the inner workings of a medical team, or a football club. If not, then no, you cannot judge the skills

This argumentation is retarded, at best. Wenger has admitted on numerous occasions that he has made mistakes playing certain players in risk zones. Arsenal have had the worst injury record of all tracked clubs since tracking began. Our injury room is currently filled with seven players. And you guys have the balls to talk about how we can't judge because we haven't been medically trained.

Ok mate