What happens if we finish below Leicester & Spurs?

Motivation is irrelevant without tactics, and tactics are irrelevant without motivation.

The players need a system to buy into that will allow them to fallback onto something certain when faced with unexpected adversity on the pitch.

Arsenal is the most talented team in the prem, but the talent is just sent out onto the pitch without any coherent plan to either score goals or stop the other side from scoring. This is 100% on wenger. He is a dinosaur. They could spend 500 million on players, and they will continue to have the exact same struggles.

I agree, Arsenal's tactical approach and set-up needs a lot of work. Some players need a kick up their ass as well.

I think the point myself and others are trying to make is: should Arsenal's tactical approach and setup really need a lot of work after Wenger has spent 20 years at the club to reach this point in time? Surely he should be 20 years ahead of everyone if the argument is that managerial stability == true.

The problem here isn't that Ranieri is above us in the league...it's that he is above us because he has managed to do in 10 months what Wenger has failed to do in 10 years. He has come up with a simple and elegant gameplan that exploits his players' strengths and weaknesses, and functions nicely in the domestic league.

So you completely neglect the fact that Leicester used only 18 players throughout the season? Is that also down to tactics? And don't give me that "training methods cause injury" crap. That's Stewart Robson shit. Leicester are probably on some blood doping, no other explanation.

So you completely neglect the fact that Leicester used only 18 players throughout the season? Is that also down to tactics? And don't give me that "training methods cause injury" crap.

You're saying injuries are 100% down to luck?

I'm saying injuries depend a lot on luck and also on a particular player. If he's injury prone then he's injury prone. But tell me this, how come Leicester's players pull their hammys and come back in 1 week? Didn't Vardy have an operation this season? He came back what 2 weeks after? Does it sound realistic to you?

Come at me bro

I'm saying injuries depend a lot on luck and also on a particular player. If he's injury prone then he's injury prone.

There is no evidence supporting the misfortune theory. If luck was such a huge factor, the odds that one club would stay top of the injury tables for 15+ years straight would be a billion to one. Luck is random. There is simply no way luck plays a big part in Arsenal's injury problems. The consistent problems we have is a result of structural issues. Training methods plays a part, so does style of play and squad depth - all of which are controlled by our manager.

But tell me this, how come Leicester's players pull their hammys and come back in 1 week? Didn't Vardy have an operation this season? He came back what 2 weeks after? Does it sound realistic to you?

Because they're obviously better at dealing with, and preventing, injuries. What else would it be? Luck again?

I can't believe that if we finish below Leicester & Spurs that people would still want Arsene in charge.

Has he set up a mass indoctrination programme?

I can't believe that if we finish below Leicester & Spurs that people would still want Arsene in charge.Has he set up a mass indoctrination programme?

Don't know why this article doesn't include Wenger, but it should. It's basically about Guardiola fanboys getting rid of the obsession about possession: http://www.theguardian.com/football/these-football-times/2016/mar/07/roberto-martinez-brendan-rodgers-pep-guardiola-everton-liverpool?CMP=fb_a-football_b-gdnfootball

Motivation is irrelevant without tactics, and tactics are irrelevant without motivation. The players need a system to buy into that will allow them to fallback onto something certain when faced with unexpected adversity on the pitch.Arsenal is the most talented team in the prem, but the talent is just sent out onto the pitch without any coherent plan to either score goals or stop the other side from scoring. This is 100% on wenger. He is a dinosaur. They could spend 500 million on players, and they will continue to have the exact same struggles.

They do have a plan, and we've seen the fallbacks as well; albeit, they haven't been functioning well recently. Recently, the fallback has been "funnel the ball to Alexis, he'll make something happen," but that hasn't worked too well since he's been out of form. With our first XI with the Cazorla-Coquelin axis, our style of play was somewhat different. People place weight on expected goals, and we know that Arsenal are killing the league in that metric. So they're doing something right, even though there are a lot of structural issues on the pitch. What is really hurting Arsenal, apart from their issues, is their ridiculously awful conversion, and we saw that against Swansea and Southampton.

I agree with the notion that Wenger is slow to react. He prefers to give his players a couple of chances to play out of bad form before he drops the axe. I'd say that he is generally a long-term planner, but that argument kind of goes to crap if you look at how he has planned out his squad over the past couple of years.

The major problem with the current system was that Wenger persisted with the Coquelin-Ramsey pivot for far too long, when he should have scrapped it after Leicester at home. Neither of the two are good with regards to build-up and control, and Ramsey was trying to do way too much.

The problem here isn't that Ranieri is above us in the league...it's that he is above us because he has managed to do in 10 months what Wenger has failed to do in 10 years. He has come up with a simple and elegant gameplan that exploits his players' strengths and weaknesses, and functions nicely in the domestic league.

Whilst aided and abetted by a healthy dollop of good fortune and various other factors that have gone their way. They are solid, of that there is no doubt. They're exceptional in their conversion rates, both for and against, and we all know that Kaspar Schmeichel isn't his father. In terms of xG at least, they aren't, whilst Arsenal are. Leicester will not be repeating this feat any time soon in all likelihood. We'd likely have accomplished the feat in 2013-14 during Ramsey's purple patch season if he and many others had managed to stay fit for the entire campaign. The aporphism "football is a game of fine margins" is very much true in my opinion.

Also, 2007-08 Arsenal had a pretty elegant gameplan and functioned nicely in the league.

Training methods plays a part, so does style of play and squad depth - all of which are controlled by our manager.Because they're obviously better at dealing with, and preventing, injuries. What else would it be? Luck again?

Their recovery rates do suggest doping. Also, aren't our injury problems getting a little better?

I can't believe that if we finish below Leicester & Spurs that people would still want Arsene in charge.Has he set up a mass indoctrination programme?

Moreso that if he suddenly leaves, Arsenal could find themselves in the cesspit that Manchester United currently are in, unless we manage to land a really exceptional manager, and most exceptional managers are unfortunately already tied up.

Well that answers my stupid question.

Their recovery rates do suggest doping.

There is no way a club like Leicester would be able to get away with that unnoticed.

WOW WE WON 4-0 AGAINST A TEAM IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, IT'S A MIRACLE!

There is no way a club like Leicester would be able to get away with that unnoticed.

Evidently there is.

That's a new excuse, a conspiracy theory

lol i cant believe people are seriously accusing the competition of cheating. this is the reason arsenal fans are so hated.

You are an arsenal fan. Leicester are doping.

are you 12 years old?

There is no way a club like Leicester would be able to get away with that unnoticed.

Perhaps. But if they are legit, could use their doctors at Arsenal.

lol i cant believe people are seriously accusing the competition of cheating. this is the reason arsenal fans are so hated.

You obviously have not seen the (hilarious) online petition to get Leicester banned.