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Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

They should seek a central midfield partner for Ramsey.

Why, Flamini is doing great? As long as he stays injury free until Coquelin comes back, we're good.

I don't think anyone worth buying will be available in january, but there could be some worthy young target in eredivisie or lugue 1 with whom I am unfamiliar. This league competition is wide open, especially if they take points from city.

They're all available, if you pay the right price. Higuain would be good.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

Flamini is doing alright for now. Still lets players past him with ease.

Going to be horrid watching De Bruyne, Sterling, Silva & Yaya glide past him like he's not even there. We desperately need a DM, none of this settling for this okay bollocks. As Flamini is fucking terrible.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

Him and Arteta are awful and not good enough in quality for title challenging teams. Simple as that.

We need a DM so badly, William Carvalho would be ideal. It'd even push Coq to try and win his place back as there's no guarantees. William might do a better job than Coquelin can.

There-in lies the problem, some people are willing to accept mediocrity after a few games against dire opponents, Flamini will get shown up big time against City; especially with Ramsey next to him who isn't disciplined whatsoever.

Wilshere & Sterling are by far England's best players too btw.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

Him and Arteta are awful and not good enough in quality for title challenging teams.

Coquelin is better, but Flamini is not the awful second-choice everyone wants him to be.

We need a DM so badly, William Carvalho would be ideal.

Have you seen him play? Very raw and inconsistent. Needs years before he reaches the maturity of Coquelin, who could quite possibly be the best DM in the world currently.

Flamini will get shown up big time against City; especially with Ramsey next to him who isn't disciplined whatsoever.

I'm willing to bet you anything that Flamini will have no problems with Man City's midfield.

Wilshere & Sterling are by far England's best players too btw.

Lol.

wot

Omglol 3,323 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Omglol

Very weird how most Arsenal fans overrate our players so much tbh

Not sure where you saw anyone here overrate our players. They just defend them from silly statement "not good enough". And you to say that, after overrating Carvalho(The grass is always greener on the other side). What Carvalho will be is not what he is now.

Coq is the most in form DM in Epl for whole year. And this is not some deluded Arsenal fan overrated opinion its backed with results and statistic. Not even the all favorite Matic had good spell for such long period. Dont know how long Coq can hold this level of performance, but there is no reason to brake the faith in him right now.

We have Artata and Flamini players with experience, and fresh Bielik and Chambers. Whatever you think of them is up to you, but we have bodies that can cover the position. A less talented player can always be covered from extra effort from the same player and the team. We defend as team now, and less on individual brilliance.

poodris 2,818 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by poodris

Another "set back" in welbeck recovery. Out until at least february. I doubt he plays at all this season.

I wouldn't bank on cow, wilshere or cazorlas proposed recovery time tables to be accurate either. Relying on some hobbled old man and a player who thinks he's a striker instead of a dm to play key roles next to Ramsey at the base of the midfield are seriously deluded.

Arteta and Flamini are not good enough cover when both starting central midfielders look to miss 3+ months.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

Very weird how most Arsenal fans overrate our players so much tbh

I'm not saying Flamini is world class, I'm just saying he has performed well since Coquelin got injured, so there is no pressing need for a DM like there was on the panic-filled day of Coquelin's injury.

However, I do think many Arsenal fans underrate more than overrate. We've been mediocre for so long that people can't actually believe that players like Koscielny, Coquelin, Monreal, Ramsey and Giroud are actually world class, and by that I mean they are some of the best players in their positions in the Premier League...and since that is the most competitive league in the world, that means they are some of the best in the world.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

World class in my book is top 5 in their positions in the world.

The only WC players we have imo are Özil, Alexis, Koscielny & Cech. Nacho is the next closest after that but I can't consider Coq to be world class. Even though I love him to bits I think if he was in a different team with a different set up he'd be nowhere near as good.

It's hard to classify a terrier DM as one of the best midfielders in the world for me.

And Flamini & Arteta aren't good enough even to be cover in my opinion.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

World class in my book is top 5 in their positions in the world.

World class in my book is being one of the best in your position, which Coquelin definitely is. What DM is better, currently? And I do mean DM, not any hybrid B2Bs. Of the proper DMs of the world, Coquelin is currently easily in the top three, if not the best.

Coquelin's reading of the game and his lateral movement to intercept and cut off diagonal through balls is fantastic. Haven't seen such a purely defensive-minded intelligent midfielder since Makelele. His only focus is to sweep between the lines and hinder opponents from entering dangerous space. He's a joy to watch.

And Flamini & Arteta aren't good enough even to be cover in my opinion.

Agree on Arteta, but again...Flamini has been playing very well since Coquelin got injured, so obviously he is good enough to be cover. He might become shit in a week, who knows...but right now he's doing a good job deputising.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

Yeah but idk, it's a weird one with Coq cause he's basically Scott Parker on steroids and isn't a cunt.

And I feel that's because we haven't exactly played great opposition in Coq's absence. There's been no real testers. City & Southampton away (where we haven't won since they've been promoted) are absolutely crucial games to see whether Flam can cut the mustard.

Regardless if he does play well, I would really like to see a youngish DM brought in, whether than be another pure DM or some sort of Deep lying playmaker. William Carvalho's passing range is fantastic and it'd be great to have him & Coq compete. They could even play together in tough away games. Them two centrally with Ramsey on the right would win us games just for the physicality alone.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

William Carvalho's passing range is fantastic and it'd be great to have him & Coq compete. They could even play together in tough away games. Them two centrally with Ramsey on the right would win us games just for the physicality alone.

Again I don't know how much you've seen of Carvalho, but what I've seen has been highly inconsistent and raw. Sometimes he does something brilliant, then he disappears for a few games. I'm sure we can make him great, but right now he's not what we need. I'd even say Bielik is more ready to play than Carvalho, at least for Arsenal.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

Again I don't know how much you've seen of Carvalho, but what I've seen has been highly inconsistent and raw. Sometimes he does something brilliant, then he disappears for a few games. I'm sure we can make him great, but right now he's not what we need. I'd even say Bielik is more ready to play than Carvalho, at least for Arsenal.

I've seen a few matches but he's great on the ball. His passing is superb and obviously he's built like a brick shithouse. Could be the perfect blend of destroyer/playmaker we need, much like Krychowiak is.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Ix Techau

I've seen a few matches but he's great on the ball. His passing is superb and obviously he's built like a brick shithouse. Could be the perfect blend of destroyer/playmaker we need, much like Krychowiak is.

Too risky for me. Also, we've been in for him once but pulled out due to complicated business mechanics, something Wenger religiously stays away from. Can't see it happening.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 9 years ago by Morleys

I know he's represented by Jorge Mendes but he isn't under third party ownership anymore and Wenger did state he's willing to conduct business with anyone.

It seems a bit of a long shot but I reckon we could've got him if he didn't break his leg. Maybe he identified William as the player he wanted to bring in so he was willing to wait until he was fully recovered (now) to bring him in?

Regardless, a couple of first team faces would do wonders for the squad & push us for the title imo. Reyes was an important signing for us in the Invincibles & Arshavin basically propelled us to Champions League football. We need to do the same, this is the greatest opportunity we've had in a while.

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